There I will enter into judgment against them concerning my inheritance, my people Israel, for they scattered my people among the nations and divided up my land. Joel 3:2
Israel's coastal strip, seen from Alfe Menasheh (Would be part of a Palestinian state if the Green Line determined the border)
There has already been a two state solution.
Worryingly, both Israel and the United States have already declared agreement with a two-state solution to the Israeli/Palestinian conflict.
How did this belief in the two state solution come about?
An excellent study of the evolution of the Two State proposition has been done by Caroline Glick and forms part one of her new book THE ISRAELI SOLUTION.
Neither ISRAEL nor the U.S.A. officially opposes a Palestinian state. What they do oppose is an independent, unilateral declaration of such a state that completely ignores any of Israel’s concerns.
Let’s get this straight. The Palestinians refuse to recognize Israel as a Jewish state. Yet, they want to be and are asking to be recognized as a Palestinian state. (Rev Jim Hutchens)
The following perspective on two states comes from a feature by Ari and Shira Sorko-Ram.
The majority of Israelis have resigned themselves to a Palestinian state because of political and demographic features of the area.
Israel is a democratic state of five million Jews and one million Israeli Arabs. All Israeli citizens have equal democratic rights. The Palestinian population of Gaza and the "West Bank" is 3.4 million , and is rising at the highest rate in the world. This contrasts to a generally western approach to having children among the less religious Jews of Israel and the unwillingness of the Jews still living in more comfortable nations to make aliyah.
If Israel were to integrate these 3.4 million Arabs/Muslims and give them the vote, Israel would almost immediately become an Islamic state. The Palestinian leadership is not seeking to annihilate Israel only by military methods; using Israel's democracy against it would be equally acceptable. This is the reason why Arafat was so insistent in pursuing his spurious claim of the "Right of Return" of seven million Palestinians who are claimed to be descendants of refugees from Israel.
The whole issue of Palestinian Refugees and the "Refugee Camps" is an important and emotive issue. For some facts on refugees, visit www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org /refugees
Before continuing, we should rebalance the argument by considering the Jewish Refugees
Israel remaining a Jewish state means the Palestinians abandoning their claim of a "Right of Return".
One would not pick this up from media accounts, but Bush and Blair had three principles for this Palestinian state.
|1||It must be democratic|
|2||Israel will withdraw from part (not all) of the West Bank|
|3||Israel will remain a Jewish state|
Democracy will be incredibly difficult to achieve, even if one assumes the people want it.
Yasser Arafat never accepted a two state solution, even when one was offered. He initiated the "Intifada" after being offered a two state solution. Mahmoud Abbas remains faithful to the doctrines of his former master; Arafat.
Palestinian negotiators have a record of not accepting anything less than their full demands. See also Quotes for an insight into Palestinian policy.
Land for Peace
According to the map, confirmed by Olmert himself to be close to accurate, the surrender was not only of Judea & Samaria and more, but of Temple Mount as well, the holiest Jewish spot in the universe.
Yet Abbas rejected the deal offered by Olmert.
“The Al-mighty shall perform a miracle that the Arabs will not want to accept anything.” Lubavitcher Rebbe, Rabbi Menachem Schneerson in 1985
Since then the miracle has been repeated a number of times.
President Bush said to the Palestinians, "If you want to be helped, here's what we're willing to do. If you choose not to be helped, if you decide you don't want a free, democratic society, there's nothing we can do."
The two state solution may be the only solution which man can produce, but it is not what the Bible foresees; except perhaps as a solution which the Antichrist manages to implement. The western world might be pleased to buy a peace with Islamic terrorists by giving away Israel's land, but judgment for dividing God's land must surely follow.
The Arab Peace Plan 2013
The latest version of the Arab League plan, instead of insisting that Israel withdraw completely from all lands conquered in 1967, now opens the door to minor land swaps. Israeli settlement blocs right across the 1967 line presumably could remain in Israel.
Arab leaders always have conditioned their peace offers on a take-it-or-leave-it basis.
The totally unacceptable part of the Arab plan, that would
doom Israel, calls for a "right of return" to Israel of millions
of Palestinian refugees and their descendants. Israel would
be swamped and eliminated as a Jewish state.
The Arab plan would create two states -- both Arab.
Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu reiterated his willingness to enter direct peace talks with the Palestinian Authority, saying that the key to an agreement is Palestinian acceptance of the Jewish State.
Netanyahu did not directly address an Arab League announcement
earlier this week, brokered by Kerry, which endorsed mutual land
swaps to help delineate the final borders in a comprehensive
Netanyahu outlined the importance of a peace deal, saying “The purpose of the future agreement with the Palestinians is to prevent the eventuality of a bi-national state. (see below)
He stressed – that the core of Israel's conflict
with the Palestinians is not territory, but a
Palestinian unwillingness to recognize Israel's legitimacy within any boundaries.
Jewish view – exchange land for peace with Arab neighbours.
Government of Gaza – Hamas - Never! Not under any circumstances!
Palestinian Authority (Fatah) Maybe - as a step towards single state of Palestine. (the Two Step Solution)
Arab View of a state of Palestine
Stage 1 - A State of Israel side by side with a State of Palestine
After a pause for the world to get used to the status quo, violence will resume until Stage 2 is achieved.
The picture below was taken from Alfe Menasheh, behind the "Green Line" - most likely part of a Two State solution Palestine. Tel Aviv skyline can be clearly seen with the sea sparkling beyond it. Israel's international airport is inland from Tel Aviv.
Around 70% of Israel's population and economy can be seen (and attacked) from this point. Israel could be brought to its knees with rocket fire from here! Israel's North-South artreries run through a corridor that would be 14 miles wide at its narrowest.
The above maps show the Arab Stage 2 boundaries (no Jewish state)
An Arab state of Palestine "From the River to the Sea" - Look. No Jews!
"a Palestinian state in the 1967 borders, with Jerusalem as its capital, is just a phase,"
In an interview with the Ma’an news agency on January 19, Tawfik Tirawi, a member of the Fatah Central Committee, said “Palestine stretches from the river to the sea… a Palestinian state in the 1967 borders, with Jerusalem as its capital, is just a phase, as far as I am concerned.”
Tirawi said that he would gladly accept a state along the 1967 borders as a first step, but warned: “Don’t think that there can be a solution to the Palestinian issue by establishing a state the borders of which are limited to the West Bank and Gaza. I challenge any Palestinian to say that the map of Palestine is limited to the West Bank and Gaza.”
He quickly added, “This does not mean that I want to throw the Jews into the sea. No, I want to live together with them… We want the people who are in Palestine to live in Palestine in its historical borders.”
Earlier this month, Tirawi told Palestinian TV that Adolf Hitler “was not morally corrupt, he was daring.”
1 ] What PM Netanyahu called a bi-national state.
The Arabs in Judea and Samaria would all enjoy the higher standard of living enjoyed by Arabs in Israel, plus the full equality that today's Israeli Arabs enjoy and the women could enjoy the full equality that women enjoy in Israel. Homosexual Arabs would also be safe and accepted.
Perceived problems -
Would any Arab leader accept the idea?
Israel is a democracy
Israeli Arabs have equal rights but still tend to side with Arab criticism of Israel.
Palestinian Arabs in the so-called “Occupied Territories”, currently PA controlled territories, would suddenly become hostile Israeli citizens.
The returning, so-called "Refugees" would shift the political demographics still further.
The World accuses Israel of being an Apartheid
state now, because of restrictions on non-Israeli
The accusations against an Israel that is trying to continue as a Jewish state with a large Arab / Muslim population would be impossible to resist. (even though there are many Muslim states that are Judenrein – and Palestine will be one such)
If, at some stage, an increased Arab population all voted, in Israel's free and fair elections, that Israel become an Islamic State with Sharia law and possibly even a Judenrein state such as Mahmoud Abbas hopes for, that would the end of Israel and Israel's Jews.
The end of the world's only Jewish state!
As proposed and explained by Caroline Glick in her new book THE ISRAELI SOLUTION
This book is an excellent overview (maybe the best) of the whole history of Palestinian efforts to destroy Israel by any means they can find.
A manifesto that exposes the flaws in the two-state policy of the United States toward Israel and the Palestinians and offers a direct and powerful call for Israeli sovereignty in the region.
The reigning consensus in elite and academic circles is that the United States must seek to resolve the Palestinians’ conflict with Israel by implementing the so-called two-state solution. Establishing a Palestinian state, so the thinking goes, would be a panacea for all the region’s ills.
She knows what she is talking about - From 1994-1996, as an IDF captain, she served as Coordinator of Negotiations with the PLO in the office of the Coordinator of Government Activities in Judea, Samaria and Gaza. In this capacity she was a core member of Israel’s negotiating team with the Palestinians.
In 1997 and 1998 she served as assistant foreign policy advisor Binyamin Netayahu during his first stint as Prime Minister.
A "MUST READ!"
The west throws Israel to the wolves and Palestine is Arab, Islamic, Judenrein "from the river to the sea" - no more war (apart from Muslim on Muslim killings) - Middle East Peace - the world is happy. ?
Islamic terrorism will not cease around the world. 2013 terror attacks in Boston and London, Woolwich had nothing to do with Israel and "Palestine".
Killing in and around Palestine will not cease.
More Muslims are killed by fellow Muslims than by anybody else, so this solution too is an illusion. Sunni, Shia, Alawites, Fatah and Hammas will continue slaughtering each other. See Syria - more than & 470,000 dead. ( UN )
Continue talking about talks while the Palestinians continue saying "NO"
The Nations will eventually tire of the intractability of the "Middle East problem" that they see as being Israel's fault, and of Islamic terror in their own lands that they blame on Muslim anger about "Palestine".
Zecariah 14 - On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which lies to the east of Yerushalayim; and the Mount of Olives will be split in half from east to west, to make a huge valley. . . . . . . Then my God will come to you with all the holy ones.
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